Attorneys Antonio Moore and Lance Filer discussed the questions is there enough? TONIGHT TONETALKS DASHRADIO 11-17-18 7pm Pacific it continues “Is there enough (Wealth, Love, Faith, Effort,…
I'm a Generation X and like millennials we was raised into an illusion. I wasted my younger years having know idea how the world works and I just thought it would all work out and after accumulating a ton of college debt and an early midlife crises now I have to figure how to clean my mess up now that I see the fanasy isn't gonna happen.
Black love can work, it just comes with more sacrifice.
I don't agree with Odell. I think millennial men aren't stepping up to the plate financially because we live in a lax society where women are dominating the workforce so they feel like they don't have to provide. You CAN provide the house and car. It may not be the nicest house or car, but you can provide something. The difference between the older generation and us is that men were EXPECTED to provide because women weren't seen in that way. They didn't have the same career opportunities. Women held themselves at a higher standard in terms of finding men who can provide.
Young Black couples have to be honest with one another and stop bullshitting and stop trying to be Jay Z and Beyonce... This is not reality tv.. Come back into reality..
No one wants to talk about how the dope boys and thugs are still scooping up majority of the women. You got 10% of the black men impregnating 70% of black women. EVERYBODY knows that the studious brother who didn't play basketball or football in high school or college was not getting any play by the sistas. Its our toxic view of manhood and womanhood that is destroying our relationships. You might have a house, car, good job and education BUT if you do not have swag then you got to get a white woman or Latina.
Another solid and constructive piece!
If your interest is not to marry a woman or a man then building should not start in the bedroom nor end there. The gentleman at the end sounded great as he complemented his woman but frankly if you are in no position or have desirability to marry her you need to stop having sex with her and putting unnecessary wear and tear on her body and taking years from her life. Let her find someone who is ready to join her in building a family and a life. This starts with marriage family
DO NOT SPEND ONE PENNY ON BLACK FRIDAY OR CYBER MONDAY!!!
Marriage is a community effort. If your political, business and religious leaders are apathetic or hostile, your growth is limited.
Tone you making great points and asking great questions fam....BUT YOU OFFER NO SOLUTIONS!!! You cant keep pushing a narrative that black ppl cant afford to be in love blablabla but you have NO solutions. Its counterproductive! Again great topics but you have all data and no direction for ppl.
20:02 There is something very wrong with not having time to date because you are taking care of your mother. The caller sounds like she is married to her mother! Not OK! Not for sons or daughters! Marriage provides community stability. You and your husband should take care of your parents together. You are instilling in your children a value that will make them want to one day take care of you.
It's certainly admirable for people to be married for 30, 40, 50+ years. However, there is a difference in being MARRIED and being in a healthy MARRIAGE.
Assalmu alaykum. I believe sacrifice is the key, What are willing not to have for exchange for a marriage and children.
Appreciate Tone cause he be slapping us black folks upside the dome with the real, this millennial generation im apart of (ages 25 to 33) most of us are in the fake fantasy bubble, half of us want a relationship while still being independent, we put 80% of our time into these damn near wasteless degrees as we accrue MORE debt we will never have the money to pay off while we all expect to be millionaires cause of the handful of blk celebrity couples we see made it cause there was PLACED before us. our unity is fractured to the point to where we blamed each other for whats not going right or wrong when their is a system in place to keep us spiritually and financially in the pits of no return. and marriage was purely created for wealth building not feelings.
I still believe in Black love. I think the blame game has a lot to do with the lack of documented marriages. For example; If a Black man has a criminal record and no job, he can't provide the basics. So, the Black woman uses welfare, housing, food stamps and whatever else to provide. The rules in place say the man isn't allowed to be in the home. So, Black women are blamed for trying to provide and are left alone. The educated Black men and women don't want to marry regular Black people because they feel we are burdens and this is why our community is in shambles.
as far as the religious end I've come to the conclusion that I'm agnostic & there's no way I'm gonna marry a lady who isn't agnostic. like i don''t even wanna be with a woman who's an atheist. yes, it's that deep.
In the words of Neely Fuller Jr, "I'm still learning". Great show Tone great show!
This was/is a priceless conversation about "black love", black wealth and racism/white supremacy. I see in the comment section there are still ignorant Negroes making this about a gender war. If white people threw us back into segregation, I bet black people would figure it out quick, fast and in a hurry, because their lives would depend on it, because also there would be no more enabling.
So the problem is that US black people (mainly black women) don't understand what marriage really is, 70% divorce rate initiated mainly by black women? Marriage is about: combing incomes, stabilizing families, submitting to your husband, raising kids TOGETHER, etc. Love is secondary ladies, do your history homework; marriage primary purpose ain't about your feelings.
Right. Some millennials think marriage is easy. I know someone who is married and now planning a divorce...and not even 25 yet. We are lost smh
Chronically, King wasn’t a part of the builder generation. He was actually the baby cousin or second or last child born of their generation. You know, the second or third child out of three.
The last caller really summarized it all for me. They're working professionals in solid fields. They did everything right yet no stability in comparison to their caucasian counterparts. I believe this is largely do to lineage and family support. He said we'd get married if I could afford it. Antonio and Yvette always speak on having a "stable" black middle class.
This is the primary thing that alters my dating life is this quest for "stability". Stability - spiritually (Are you a christian?) , emotionally (How were past relationships?), physically (Do you take care of yourself?), mentally (Do you care what people think i.e. always on IG & FB) and financially (What are short and long term financial plans?). It takes time to know them but when you working and going to school how do you make time? FaceTime.lol Great work Tone!
Very Good discussion Tone! You guys gave me a lot to think about. We live in a different America and an ever-changing America and I don’t think enough of us realize this reality... the ShadeRoom/reality tv and hip hop culture in general has really distorted people’s views of realities, and the real realities of what being a descendant of slaves looks like in America 2017 especially for millennials
These men act like black men of their stature generally check for black women who look black when they do not..colorism is more intense as you move up the social ladder.. it's relatively rare that a wealthy black man has a wife who looks black even when she is 'black'..its,a pleasant surprise when I see such men with black women
I know we need intact families. But, you know what?Many immigrants left their families behind their homeland to find their riches in foreign lands. So, is it that we need families or do we need more mobility? Just a thought.
Now that woman, black woman hv the ability to exceed their men, how has that improved the black community?
Excellent. It's back to Peasantry and caste system like in India.
1) feminism 2) social media 3) welfare 4) anti-male marriage laws 5) rape culture 6) student loan debt etc...the juice aint worth the squeeze
Both black men and women have unrealistic expectations due to media and celebrity. Men us IG as the black women standard no different than what black women. We are living in a celebrated fantasy time where we are willing to fantasize our way through life. We have bought into the no matter what as long as in the end it reads...... and they lived happily ever after...... Neely Fuller said it best we don’t ask enough questions. What’s worst I don’t think we want to know because it crushes the fantasy.
Feminism hasn't worked out well for black women, children, and families. Since the 60's they traded in marriage and childbearing in exchange for a worthless master's degree. They have far less in savings and home equity than prior generations, so the education has not added anything but debt. Check out my book https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=607423556075615&id=546921228792515
Is there enough? Given the scope and depth of information you have continuously provided, I would say no. The data you provide and how black folks, descendants of slaves are not allowed to live to their highest potential,
Yes I get the reality check on black marriage relationahips wealth etc...just sounds like we should throw in the towel in pursuit of black relationships all together from the reality I'm hearing...what's the point. Everybody just be single with or without kids and deal with it move forward. Just let it be a topic of discussion for tbe sake filling a conversation space cause there's no resolution.
Please enter an answer in digits:
Current ye@r *
Leave this field empty
Notify me of follow-up comments by email.
Notify me of new posts by email.
What should the Democrats be doing now to promote Progressive Policy?